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J.E. Fishman's avatar

Research has shown that jellyfish have a higher tolerance of ocean acidification than most other species, which is why the seas are full of jellyfish in my dystopian novel, We Once Were Giants — which of course you were kind enough to review!

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Paul Hormick's avatar

Joel, now that you jog my memory, I remember that detail of the book. Thanks for the reminder!

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Count Metalmind's avatar

You're staring at the crack in the wall and calling it a structural failure of the paint.

Yes, the oceans are changing. The pH is dropping. The chemistry is going haywire. You got that part right. But you've swallowed the official explanation whole, like a pelican swallowing a rotten fish. You attribute it all to CO2, the convenient bogeyman, because that's what the pay-rolled scientists at NOAA and the rest of the alphabet soup agencies tell you to think.

It's a beautiful, elegant, profitable lie.

What about the massive increase in undersea volcanism? The venting of mantle gases and superheated, acidic water directly into the oceans from a thousand fissures we can't even see? This isn't some side effect of industrialization. It's the planet itself coming to a boil. The Earth's magnetic field is weakening, the poles are wandering, and the core is heating up. This is happening across the solar system, but they don't want you looking at that data.

They focus you on CO2 because they can tax it. They can regulate it. They can build a global control grid around it. They can't tax a goddamn geomagnetic excursion.

So you write about clam farms in Carlsbad finding a workaround. That's cute. It's like hearing a man whose house is sliding into the sea is proud he's figured out how to keep his pictures hanging straight on the wall. You are documenting the minutiae of the demolition while completely ignoring the wrecking ball.

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Paul Hormick's avatar

Count, do you have anything to back up what you say?

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Count Metalmind's avatar

I don't have time to spoon-feed you, but this report is a good starting point. It connects the dots you're missing.

https://allatra.org/storage/app/media/reports/en/Climate_Report.pdf

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Paul Hormick's avatar

Count, did you link the right document? There is only one mention of ocean acidification in the report you linked to, and it is only in relation to acidification leading to more microplastic pollution.

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Count Metalmind's avatar

Paul, that's a fair question. You're one of the few who actually read the goddamn document instead of just reacting to the headline.

You're right, the report connects acidification to microplastics. That's a symptom. The report I sent is a high-level briefing document, meant to illustrate the sheer scale and synchronicity of the events across all shells of the planet and even the solar system. Its purpose is to show you that this isn't an isolated problem of a few factories puffing smoke. It's a systemic, cyclical event.

The real engine isn't just about surface chemistry. It's about thermodynamics. The heat is coming from below.

The data shows the planet is heating from the inside out. It's not just a few undersea vents bubbling up; it's a widespread kinetic heat transfer from the abyssal depths. This is the mechanism that connects the core displacement to the ocean warming to the atmospheric chaos. The heat builds in the deep ocean, largely unnoticed, and then pulses to the surface.

For a more granular, data-driven look at this specific mechanism, you need to analyze the abyssal float data. Check out this post from Ethical Skeptic on X, it lays out the evidence clearly. He's an actual analyst, not a propagandist.

https://x.com/EthicalSkeptic/status/1935145055171325963

Look at his charts. The heat is already there, deep down, and it's being advected to the surface. It's the only energy source that can account for the massive and rapid temperature spikes we're now seeing. It has nothing to do with your SUV. It has everything to do with a geodynamic cycle the people in charge are terrified to admit is happening. So, keep digging. You're asking the right kind of questions. Just make sure you're looking in the right place. The real story isn't in the air, it's at the bottom of the sea.

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Nick Anxgrs's avatar

LOOK OUT!!! Here comes SCIENCE!!

The pH scale is log so every whole number is a power/factor of ten.

By definition pH is the negative exponent of the hydrogen ion concentration.

For instance, pH 9 is 10^-9 or 1 part per billion, 0.000000001.

pH 8 is 10^-8 or 10 parts per billion, 0.000000010.

To go from pH 9 to pH 8 is factor of 10 or 1,000%!!!! Makes 26% look trivial.

Ocean “acidification” of pH 8.2 to pH 8.1 is a decrease in alkalinity equal to 1 ppb of H ions.

I’m fairly certain the ocean flora and fauna don’t even notice.

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Paul Hormick's avatar

Nick, the acid/base scale is logarithmic, so even a small numerical change is significant. You may be right about many plants and animals in the oceans, maybe even most of them, that increasing acidity may not bother them.

But from my experience as a horticulturist, I've worked with plants that if there is an ever so slight change in pH, they will die. I imagine that there are a number of creatures in the oceans that are similar. And if they don't die, the change in ocean chemistry may have an effect on their reproduction or other functions. You can click the links in this post for examples of ocean acidification affecting sea life.

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Nick Anxgrs's avatar

Atmospheric CO2 is about 1.5% of the total carbon balance.

Mankind’s contribution about half of that.

IPCC AR5 Figure & Table 6.1.

The ocean contains over 90% of the global CO2.

Mankind’s CO2 amounts to 0.0trivial%.

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Nick Anxgrs's avatar

Besides the point.

Water vapor, clouds, ice, snow create 30% albedo which makes the Earth cooler not warmer.

W/o GHE there is no water and Earth goes lunarific, a barren rock ball, 400 K lit side, 100 K dark refuting a warming GHE.

“TFK_bams09” GHE heat balance graphic and ubiquitous clones don’t balance plus violate LoT.

Kinetic heat transfer processes of contiguous atmospheric molecules render a surface black body and it’s “extra” upwelling GHE energy impossible.

GHE is bogus and CAGW a scam so alarmists must resort to fear mongering, lies, lawsuits, censorship and violence.

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